Incidencia de fibrilación auricular en pacientes con dispositivos de estimulación cardiaca con cardiopatía chagásica y no chagásica

La posible asociación entre el desarrollo de fibrilación auricular (FA) con la presencia de cardiopatía chagásica en una población portadora de dispositivos cardiacos de estimulación no está descrita. Se presenta un estudio de tipo cohorte retrospectivo realizado en la FCI que recopila las principales características clínicas de una población de pacientes con cardiopatía de variada etiología y portadores de dispositivos cardiacos buscando evaluar la incidencia de FA en presencia de cardiomiopatía de origen chagásico y no chagásico. A la fecha no se cuenta con una base de datos institucional ni regional que contenga las variables analizadas. Durante los 5 meses que duró la construcción de la base de datos se incluyeron 99 sujetos de investigación. Se implantaron 42 marcapasos bicamerales, 39 cardiodesfibriladores bicamerales, 6 dispositivos correspondientes cardiodesfibrilador con función de resincronización cardiaca, 2 resincronizadores cardiacos sin función de cardiodesfibrilador y 7 cardiodesfibriladores unicamerales. De los 99 sujetos recolectados se presentaron 8 desenlaces (FA de novo) y de esos solamente 1 pertenece al grupo de pacientes con cardiomiopatía chagásica. Este número reducido de desenlaces no permitió desarrollar un modelo de regresión de Cox y ni otros tipos de análisis estadísticos planteados en el protocolo inicial debido al bajo número de casos y pobre poder estadístico. Esta dificultad es inherente a la naturaleza del problema a estudiar y al corto tiempo de seguimiento. Por lo anterior no se puede establecer si existe una relación entre la presencia de serología positiva para infección por T. Cruzi y la presencia de FA de novo.

Fibrilação atrial e demência: resultados do São Paulo ageing & health study

FUNDAMENTO: A fibrilação atrial é um fator de risco controverso para demência. OBJETIVO: O objetivo deste estudo é avaliar a associação entre fibrilação atrial e demência em participantes do São Paulo Ageing & Health. MÉTODOS: O São Paulo Ageing & Health é um estudo transversal, de base populacional, de idosos residentes em um uma região de baixa renda da cidade de São Paulo, Brasil. Diagnóstico de demência foi realizado de acordo com o protocolo do grupo 10/66, com base em critérios do Manual de Diagnóstico e Estatística das Perturbações Mentais (DSM-IV). O diagnóstico de fibrilação atrial foi feito por eletrocardiograma de 12 derivações, avaliado por dois cardiologistas. Dados demográficos e de fatores de risco cardiovasculares também foram obtidos. RESULTADOS: A demência foi diagnosticada em 66 (4,3%) e fibrilação atrial em 36 (2,4%) de 1.524 participantes com um eletrocardiograma válido. A razão de chances bruta para demência em participantes com fibrilação atrial foi 2,8 (intervalo de confiança [IC] 95%: 1,0-8,1; p = 0,06) em comparação com indivíduos sem fibrilação atrial. Relação positiva foi encontrada em mulheres (RC 4,2; IC 95%: 1,2-15,1; p = 0,03). Após ajuste para idade, no entanto, essa associação tornou-se não significativa (RC 2,2, IC 95%: 0,6-8,9; p = 0,26). CONCLUSÃO: Não houve associação independente entre a fibrilação atrial e demência nessa amostra. A prevalência da fibrilação atrial pode ser baixa nesta população em virtude da mortalidade cardiovascular prematura.

Early repolarization, left ventricular diastolic function, and left atrial size in professional soccer players

Recent data have suggested a relation among long-term endurance sport practice, left atrial remodeling, and atrial fibrillation. We investigated the influence of an increased vagal tone, represented by the early repolarization (ER) pattern, on diastolic function and left atrial size in professional soccer players. Fifty-four consecutive athletes underwent electrocardiography, echocardiography, and exercise testing as part of their preparticipation screening. Athletes were divided into 2 groups according to presence or absence of an ER pattern, defined as a ST-segment elevation at the J-point (STE) > or =0.1 mm in 2 leads. For linear comparisons average STE was calculated. Mean age was 24 +/- 4 years. Twenty-five athletes (46%) showed an ER pattern. Athletes with an ER pattern had a significant lower heart rate (54 +/- 9 vs 62 +/- 11 beats/min, p = 0.024), an increased E/e' ratio (6.1 +/- 1.2 vs 5.1 +/- 1.0, p = 0.002), and larger volumes of the left atrium (25.6 +/- 7.3 vs 21.8 +/- 5.0 ml/m(2), p = 0.031) compared to athletes without an ER pattern. There were no significant differences concerning maximum workload, left ventricular dimensions, and systolic function. Univariate regression analysis revealed significant correlations among age, STE, and left atrial volume. In a stepwise multivariate regression analysis age, STE and e' contributed independently to left atrial size (r = 0.659, p <0.001). In conclusion, athletes with an ER pattern had an increased E/e' ratio, reflecting a higher left atrial filling pressure, contributing to left atrial remodeling over time.

Gender differences of atrial and ventricular remodeling and autonomic tone in nonelite athletes

Veteran endurance athletes have an increased risk of developing atrial fibrillation (AF), with a striking male predominance. We hypothesized that male athletes were more prone to atrial and ventricular remodeling and investigated the signal-averaged P wave and factors that promote the occurrence of AF. Nonelite athletes scheduled to participate in the 2010 Grand Prix of Bern, a 10-mile race, were invited. Of the 873 marathon and nonmarathon runners who were willing to participate, 68 female and 70 male athletes were randomly selected. The runners with cardiovascular disease or elevated blood pressure (>140/90 mm Hg) were excluded. Thus, 121 athletes were entered into the final analysis. Their mean age was 42 ± 7 years. No gender differences were found for age, lifetime training hours, or race time. The male athletes had a significantly longer signal-averaged P-wave duration (136 ± 12 vs 122 ± 10 ms; p <0.001). The left atrial volume was larger in the male athletes (56 ± 13 vs 49 ± 10 ml; p = 0.001), while left atrial volume index showed no differences (29 ± 7 vs 30 ± 6 ml/m²; p = 0.332). In male athletes, the left ventricular mass index (107 ± 17 vs 86 ± 16 g/m²; p <0.001) and relative wall thickness (0.44 ± 0.06 vs 0.41 ± 0.07; p = 0.004) were greater. No differences were found in the left ventricular ejection fraction (63 ± 4% vs 66 ± 6%; p = 0.112) and mitral annular tissue Doppler e' velocity (10.9 ± 1.5 vs 10.6 ± 1.5 cm/s; p = 0.187). However, the tissue Doppler a' velocity was higher (8.7 ± 1.2 vs 7.6 ± 1.3 cm/s; p < 0.001) in the male athletes. Male athletes had a higher systolic blood pressure at rest (123 ± 9 vs 110 ± 11 mm Hg; p < 0.001) and at peak exercise (180 ± 15 vs 169 ± 19 mm Hg; p = 0.001). In the frequency domain analysis of heart rate variability, the sympatho-vagal balance, represented by the low/high-frequency power ratio, was significantly greater in male athletes (5.8 ± 2.8 vs 3.9 ± 1.9; p < 0.001). Four athletes (3.3%) had at least one documented episode of paroxysmal AF, all were men (p = 0.042). In conclusion, for a comparable amount of training and performance, male athletes showed a more pronounced atrial remodeling, a concentric type of ventricular remodeling, and an altered diastolic function. A higher blood pressure at rest and during exercise and a higher sympathetic tone might be causal. The altered left atrial substrate might facilitate the occurrence of AF.

Atrial remodeling, autonomic tone, and lifetime training hours in nonelite athletes

Endurance athletes have an increased risk of developing atrial fibrillation (AF) at 40 to 50 years of age. Signal-averaged P-wave analysis has been used for identifying patients at risk for AF. We evaluated the impact of lifetime training hours on signal-averaged P-wave duration and modifying factors. Nonelite men athletes scheduled to participate in the 2010 Grand Prix of Bern, a 10-mile race, were invited. Four hundred ninety-two marathon and nonmarathon runners applied for participation, 70 were randomly selected, and 60 entered the final analysis. Subjects were stratified according to their lifetime training hours (average endurance and strength training hours per week × 52 × training years) in low (<1,500 hours), medium (1,500 to 4,500 hours), and high (>4,500 hours) training groups. Mean age was 42 ± 7 years. From low to high training groups signal-averaged P-wave duration increased from 131 ± 6 to 142 ± 13 ms (p = 0.026), and left atrial volume increased from 24.8 ± 4.6 to 33.1 ± 6.2 ml/m(2) (p = 0.001). Parasympathetic tone expressed as root of the mean squared differences of successive normal-to-normal intervals increased from 34 ± 13 to 47 ± 16 ms (p = 0.002), and premature atrial contractions increased from 6.1 ± 7.4 to 10.8 ± 7.7 per 24 hours (p = 0.026). Left ventricular mass increased from 100.7 ± 9.0 to 117.1 ± 18.2 g/m(2) (p = 0.002). Left ventricular systolic and diastolic function and blood pressure at rest were normal in all athletes and showed no differences among training groups. Four athletes (6.7%) had a history of paroxysmal AF, as did 1 athlete in the medium training group and 3 athletes in the high training group (p = 0.252). In conclusion, in nonelite men athletes lifetime training hours are associated with prolongation of signal-averaged P-wave duration and an increase in left atrial volume. The altered left atrial substrate may facilitate occurrence of AF. Increased vagal tone and atrial ectopy may serve as modifying and triggering factors.

Comparison of pro-atrial natriuretic peptide and atrial remodeling in marathon versus non-marathon runners

Long-term endurance sports are associated with atrial remodeling and an increased risk for atrial fibrillation (AF) and atrial flutter. Pro-atrial natriuretic peptide (pro-ANP) is a marker of atrial wall tension and elevated in patients with AF. The aim of this study was to test the hypothesis that atrial remodeling would be perpetuated by repetitive episodes of atrial stretching during strenuous competitions, reflected by elevated levels of pro-ANP. A cross-sectional study was performed on nonelite runners scheduled to participate in the 2010 Grand Prix of Bern, a 10-mile race. Four hundred ninety-two marathon and nonmarathon runners applied for participation, 70 were randomly selected, and 56 entered the final analysis. Subjects were stratified according to former marathon participations: a control group (nonmarathon runners, n = 22), group 1 (1 to 4 marathons, n = 16), and group 2 (≥5 marathons, n = 18). Results were adjusted for age, training years, and average weekly endurance training hours. The mean age was 42 ± 7 years. Compared to the control group, marathon runners in groups 1 and 2 had larger left atria (25 ± 6 vs 30 ± 6 vs 34 ± 7 ml/m(2), p = 0.002) and larger right atria (27 ± 7 vs 31 ± 8 vs 35 ± 5 ml/m(2), p = 0.024). Pro-ANP levels at baseline were higher in marathon runners (1.04 ± 0.38 vs 1.42 ± 0.74 vs 1.67 ± 0.69 nmol/L, p = 0.006). Pro-ANP increased significantly in all groups after the race. In multiple linear regression analysis, marathon participation was an independent predictor of left atrial (β = 0.427, p <0.001) and right atrial (β = 0.395, p = 0.006) remodeling. In conclusion, marathon running was associated with progressive left and right atrial remodeling, possibly induced by repetitive episodes of atrial stretching. The altered left and right atrial substrate may facilitate atrial arrhythmias.

Inflammation and atrial remodeling after a mountain marathon

Endurance athletes have an increased risk of atrial fibrillation. We performed a longitudinal study on elite runners of the 2010 Jungfrau Marathon, a Swiss mountain marathon, to determine acute effects of long-distance running on the atrial myocardium. Ten healthy male athletes were included and examined 9 to 1 week prior to the race, immediately after, and 1, 5, and 8 days after the race. Mean age was 34.9 ± 4.2 years, and maximum oxygen consumption was 66.8 ± 5.8 mL/kg*min. Mean race time was 243.9 ± 17.7 min. Electrocardiographic-determined signal-averaged P-wave duration (SAPWD) increased significantly after the race and returned to baseline levels during follow-up (128.7 ± 10.9 vs. 137.6 ± 9.8 vs. 131.5 ± 8.6 ms; P < 0.001). Left and right atrial volumes showed no significant differences over time, and there were no correlations of atrial volumes and SAPWD. Prolongation of the SAPWD was accompanied by a transient increase in levels of high-sensitivity C-reactive protein, proinflammatory cytokines, total leucocytes, neutrophil granulocytes, pro atrial natriuretic peptide and high-sensitivity troponin. In conclusion, marathon running was associated with a transient conduction delay in the atria, acute inflammation and increased atrial wall tension. This may reflect exercise-induced atrial myocardial edema and may contribute to atrial remodeling over time, generating a substrate for atrial arrhythmias.

Myotonic dystrophy as a potential killer

A 19-year-old man suffered a cardiac arrest during a promenade with his friends. Cardiac resuscitation was started immediately. Anamnesis uncovered that the father as well as a cousin of the patient suffered from myotonic dystrophy (MD). Follow-up ECG monitoring showed intercurrent III degree AV-block as well as several asymptomatic episodes of ventricular tachycardias, atrial flutter with changing conduction and atrial fibrillation. Neuromuscular testing and genetic analyses confirmed the diagnosis of a myotonic dystrophy. Myotonic dystrophy (MD) is a chronic, slowly progressing, autosomal dominant inherited multisystemic disease.The clinical presentation is characterized by wasting of the muscles with delayed relaxation, cataracts and endocrine changes. MD is associated with both cardiac conduction disturbances and structural heart abnormalities. Electrocardiographic abnormalities include conduction disturbances or tachyarrhythmias. This case illustrates that potentially lethal arrhythmias inducing sudden cardiac death may occur in MD patients even in the absence of neurologic symptoms characterizing the systemic illness.

Validation of novel 3-dimensional electrocardiographic mapping of atrial tachycardias by invasive mapping and ablation: a multicenter study

OBJECTIVES This study prospectively evaluated the role of a novel 3-dimensional, noninvasive, beat-by-beat mapping system, Electrocardiographic Mapping (ECM), in facilitating the diagnosis of atrial tachycardias (AT). BACKGROUND Conventional 12-lead electrocardiogram, a widely used noninvasive tool in clinical arrhythmia practice, has diagnostic limitations. METHODS Various AT (de novo and post-atrial fibrillation ablation) were mapped using ECM followed by standard-of-care electrophysiological mapping and ablation in 52 patients. The ECM consisted of recording body surface electrograms from a 252-electrode-vest placed on the torso combined with computed tomography-scan-based biatrial anatomy (CardioInsight Inc., Cleveland, Ohio). We evaluated the feasibility of this system in defining the mechanism of AT-macro-re-entrant (perimitral, cavotricuspid isthmus-dependent, and roof-dependent circuits) versus centrifugal (focal-source) activation-and the location of arrhythmia in centrifugal AT. The accuracy of the noninvasive diagnosis and detection of ablation targets was evaluated vis-à-vis subsequent invasive mapping and successful ablation. RESULTS Comparison between ECM and electrophysiological diagnosis could be accomplished in 48 patients (48 AT) but was not possible in 4 patients where the AT mechanism changed to another AT (n = 1), atrial fibrillation (n = 1), or sinus rhythm (n = 2) during the electrophysiological procedure. ECM correctly diagnosed AT mechanisms in 44 of 48 (92%) AT: macro-re-entry in 23 of 27; and focal-onset with centrifugal activation in 21 of 21. The region of interest for focal AT perfectly matched in 21 of 21 (100%) AT. The 2:1 ventricular conduction and low-amplitude P waves challenged the diagnosis of 4 of 27 macro-re-entrant (perimitral) AT that can be overcome by injecting atrioventricular node blockers and signal averaging, respectively. CONCLUSIONS This prospective multicenter series shows a high success rate of ECM in accurately diagnosing the mechanism of AT and the location of focal arrhythmia. Intraprocedural use of the system and its application to atrial fibrillation mapping is under way.

Gene by BMI Interactions Influencing C-Reactive Protein Levels in European-Americans

C-Reactive Protein (CRP) is a biomarker indicating tissue damage, inflammation, and infection. High-sensitivity CRP (hsCRP) is an emerging biomarker often used to estimate an individual’s risk for future coronary heart disease (CHD). hsCRP levels falling below 1.00 mg/l indicate a low risk for developing CHD, levels ranging between 1.00 mg/l and 3.00 mg/l indicate an elevated risk, and levels exceeding 3.00 mg/l indicate high risk. Multiple Genome-Wide Association Studies (GWAS) have identified a number of genetic polymorphisms which influence CRP levels. SNPs implicated in such studies have been found in or near genes of interest including: CRP, APOE, APOC, IL-6, HNF1A, LEPR, and GCKR. A strong positive correlation has also been found to exist between CRP levels and BMI, a known risk factor for CHD and a state of chronic inflammation. We conducted a series of analyses designed to identify loci which interact with BMI to influence CRP levels in a subsample of European-Americans in the ARIC cohort. In a stratified GWA analysis, 15 genetic regions were identified as having significantly (p-value < 2.00*10-3) distinct effects on hsCRP levels between the two obesity strata: lean (18.50 kg/m2 < BMI < 24.99 kg/m2) and obese (BMI ≥ 30.00 kg/m2). A GWA analysis performed on all individuals combined (i.e. not a priori stratified for obesity status) with the inclusion of an additional parameter for BMI by gene interaction, identified 11 regions which interact with BMI to influence hsCRP levels. Two regions containing the genes GJA5 and GJA8 (on chromosome 1) and FBXO11 (on chromosome 2) were identified in both methods of analysis suggesting that these genes possibly interact with BMI to influence hsCRP levels. We speculate that atrial fibrillation (AF), age-related cataracts and the TGF-β pathway may be the biological processes influenced by the interaction of GJA5, GJA8 and FBXO11, respectively, with BMI to cause changes in hsCRP levels. Future studies should focus on the influence of gene x bmi interaction on AF, age-related cataracts and TGF-β.

Clinical role of atrial arrhythmias in patients with arrhythmogenic right ventricular dysplasia

BACKGROUND: The clinical role of atrial fibrillation/atrial flutter (AF-AFl) and variables predicting these arrhythmias are not well defined in patients with arrhythmogenic right ventricular dysplasia (ARVD). We hypothesized that transthoracic echocardiography (TTE) and 12-lead electrocardiography (ECG) would be helpful in predicting AF-AFl in these patients. METHODS AND RESULTS: ECGs and TTEs of 90 patients diagnosed with definite or borderline ARVD (2010 Task Force Criteria) were analyzed. Data were compared in (1) patients with AF-AFl and (2) all other patients. A total of 18 (20%) patients experienced AF-AFl during a median follow-up of 5.8 years (interquartile range 2.0-10.4). Kaplan-Meier analysis revealed reduced times to AF-AFl among patients with echocardiographic RV fractional area change <27% (P<0.001), left atrial diameter ≥24.4 mm/m(2)(parasternal long-axis, P=0.001), and right atrial short-axis diameter ≥22.1 mm/m(2)(apical 4-chamber view, P=0.05). From all ECG variables, P mitrale conferred the highest hazard ratio (3.37, 95% confidence interval 0.92-12.36, P=0.067). Five patients with AF-AFl experienced inappropriate implantable cardioverter-defibrillator (ICD) shocks compared with 4 without AF-AFl (36% vs. 9%, P=0.03). AF-AFl was more prevalent in heart-transplant patients and those who died of cardiac causes (56% vs. 16%, P=0.014). CONCLUSIONS: AF-AFl is associated with inappropriate ICD shocks, heart transplantation, and cardiac death in patients with ARVD. Evidence of reduced RV function and atrial dilation helps to identify the ARVD patients at increased risk for AF-AFl.

Left atrial remodeling, early repolarization pattern, and inflammatory cytokines in professional soccer players

OBJECTIVES: Although regular physical exercise clearly reduces cardiovascular morbidity risk, long-term endurance sports practice has been recognized as a risk factor for atrial fibrillation (AF). However, the mechanisms how endurance sports can lead to AF are not yet clear. The aim of our present study was to investigate the influence of long-term endurance training on vagal tone, atrial size, and inflammatory profile in professional elite soccer players. METHODS: A total of 25 professional major league soccer players (mean age 24+/-4 years) and 20 sedentary controls (mean age 26+/-3 years) were included in the study and consecutively examined. All subjects underwent a sports cardiology check-up with physical examination, electrocardiography, echocardiography, exercise testing on a bicycle ergometer, and laboratory analysis [standard laboratory and cytokine profile: interleukin (IL)-6, tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-alpha, IL-8, IL-10]. RESULTS: Athletes were divided into two groups according to presence or absence of an early repolarization (ER) pattern, defined as a ST-segment elevation at the J-point (STE) >/=0.1mm in 2 leads. Athletes with an ER pattern showed significantly lower heart rate and an increased E/e' ratio compared to athletes without an ER pattern. STE significantly correlated with E/e' ratio as well as with left atrial (LA) volume. The pro-inflammatory cytokines IL-6, IL-8, TNF-alpha as well as the anti-inflammatory cytokine IL-10 were significantly elevated in all soccer players. However, athletes with an ER pattern had significantly higher IL-6 plasma levels than athletes without ER pattern. Furthermore, athletes with "high" level IL-6 had significantly larger LA volumes than players with "low" level IL-6. CONCLUSIONS: Athletes with an ER pattern had significantly higher E/e' ratios, reflecting higher atrial filling pressures, higher LA volume, and higher IL-6 plasma levels. All these factors may contribute to atrial remodeling over time and thus increase the risk of AF in long-term endurance sports.

Racial differences in heart failure with preserved ejection fraction in the ambulatory heart failure population

Racial differences in heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (HFpEF) have rarely been studied in an ambulatory, financially "equal access" cohort, although the majority of such patients are treated as outpatients. ^ Retrospective data was collected from 2,526 patients (2,240 Whites, 286 African American) with HFpEF treated at 153 VA clinics, as part of the VA External Peer Review Program (EPRP) between October 2000 and September 2002. Kaplan Meier curves (stratified by race) were created for time to first heart failure (HF) hospitalization, all cause hospitalization and death and Cox proportional multivariate regression models were constructed to evaluate the effect of race on these outcomes. ^ African American patients were younger (67.7 ± 11.3 vs. 71.2 ± 9.8 years; p < 0.001), had lower prevalence of atrial fibrillation (24.5 % vs. 37%; p <0.001), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (23.4 % vs. 36.9%, p <0.001), but had higher blood pressure (systolic blood pressure > 120 mm Hg 77.6% vs. 67.8%; p < 0.01), glomerular filtration rate (67.9 ± 31.0 vs. 61.6 ± 22.6 mL/min/1.73 m2; p < 0.001), anemia (56.6% vs. 41.7%; p <0.001) as compared to whites. African Americans were found to have higher risk adjusted rate of HF hospitalization (HR 1.52, 95% CI 1.1 - 2.11; p = 0.01), with no difference in risk-adjusted all cause hospitalization (p = 0.80) and death (p= 0.21). ^ In a financially "equal access" setting of the VA, among ambulatory patients with HFpEF, African Americans have similar rates of mortality and all cause hospitalization but have an increased risk of HF hospitalizations compared to whites.^

Epicardial phrenic nerve displacement during catheter ablation of atrial and ventricular arrhythmias: procedural experience and outcomes.

BACKGROUND Arrhythmia origin in close proximity to the phrenic nerve (PN) can hinder successful catheter ablation. We describe our approach with epicardial PN displacement in such instances. METHODS AND RESULTS PN displacement via percutaneous pericardial access was attempted in 13 patients (age 49±16 years, 9 females) with either atrial tachycardia (6 patients) or atrial fibrillation triggered from a superior vena cava focus (1 patient) adjacent to the right PN or epicardial ventricular tachycardia origin adjacent to the left PN (6 patients). An epicardially placed steerable sheath/4 mm-catheter combination (5 patients) or a vascular or an esophageal balloon (8 patients) was ultimately successful. Balloon placement was often difficult requiring manipulation via a steerable sheath. In 2 ventricular tachycardia cases, absence of PN capture was achieved only once the balloon was directly over the ablation catheter. In 3 atrial tachycardia patients, PN displacement was not possible with a balloon; however, a steerable sheath/catheter combination was ultimately successful. PN displacement allowed acute abolishment of all targeted arrhythmias. No PN injury occurred acutely or in follow up. Two patients developed acute complications (pleuro-pericardial fistula 1 and pericardial bleeding 1). Survival free of target arrhythmia was achieved in all atrial tachycardia patients; however, a nontargeted ventricular tachycardia recurred in 1 patient at a median of 13 months' follow up. CONCLUSIONS Arrhythmias originating in close proximity to the PN can be targeted successfully with PN displacement with an epicardially placed steerable sheath/catheter combination, or balloon, but this strategy can be difficult to implement. Better tools for phrenic nerve protection are desirable.