Improvements in Air Intake on Frame 6 Gas Turbines

Työssä tarkastellaan kahta kaasuturbiinin imuilman sisäänottojärjestelmän kehitysmenetelmää, imuilman jäähdytystä ja sähköstaattista suodatusta. Imuilman jäähdytysmenetelmien tarkastelussa käytettiin kahta kaasuturbiinin tehonlisäystekniikoiden laskentatyökalua. Arviointi kohdistettiin Glanford Brigg Generating Station -voimalaitoksen kaasuturbiinityyppiin ja paikallisiin englantilaisiin ilmasto-olosuhteisiin. Tarkastelussa olivat kostutusjäähdytys ja overspray. Tuloksia vertailtiin keskenään ja näiden perusteella arvioitiin menetelmien vaikutuksia tehoon, hyötysuhteeseen sekä veden kulutukseen. Sähköstaattisen suodattimen prototyyppi oli rakennettu Briggin voimalaitokselle. Järjestelmää kehitetään kaupalliseksi tuotteeksi ja tätä varten kerättiin tekninen dokumentaatio kokonaisuudeksi, jota voitiin hyödyntää tuotteistusprosessissa. Imuilman jäähdyttämisellä voidaan saavuttaa merkittävä tehonlisäys ilmasto-olosuhteista riippuen. Menetelmällä voidaan myös tasata lämpötilan vuorokausi-vaihtelusta aiheutuvia tehoeroja. Sähköstaattisen suodattimen prototyyppi saavutti kehitysvaiheelle asetetut tavoitteet. Sähköstaattinen suodatus tarjoaa useita etuja perinteiseen mekaaniseen suodatukseen verrattuna.

Computational and Experimental Analysis of Flow Field in the Diffusers of Centrifugal Compressors

Centrifugal compressors are widely used for example in process industry, oil and gas industry, in small gas turbines and turbochargers. In order to achieve lower consumption of energy and operation costs the efficiency of the compressor needs to be improve. In the present work different pinches and low solidity vaned diffusers were utilized in order to improve the efficiency of a medium size centrifugal compressor. In this study, pinch means the decrement of the diffuser flow passage height. First different geometries were analyzed using computational fluid dynamics. The flow solver Finflo was used to solve the flow field. Finflo is a Navier-Stokes solver. The solver is capable to solve compressible, incompressible, steady and unsteady flow fields. Chien's k-e turbulence model was used. One of the numerically investigated pinched diffuser and one low solidity vaned diffuser were studied experimentally. The overall performance of the compressor and the static pressure distribution before and after the diffuser were measured. The flow entering and leaving the diffuser was measured using a three-hole Cobra-probe and Kiel-probes. The pinch and the low solidity vaned diffuser increased the efficiency of the compressor. Highest isentropic efficiency increment obtained was 3\% of the design isentropic efficiency of the original geometry. It was noticed in the numerical results that the pinch made to the hub and the shroud wall was most beneficial to the operation of the compressor. Also the pinch made to the hub was better than the pinchmade to the shroud. The pinch did not affect the operation range of the compressor, but the low solidity vaned diffuser slightly decreased the operation range.The unsteady phenomena in the vaneless diffuser were studied experimentally andnumerically. The unsteady static pressure was measured at the diffuser inlet and outlet, and time-accurate numerical simulation was conducted. The unsteady static pressure showed that most of the pressure variations lay at the passing frequency of every second blade. The pressure variations did not vanish in the diffuser and were visible at the diffuser outlet. However, the amplitude of the pressure variations decreased in the diffuser. The time-accurate calculations showed quite a good agreement with the measured data. Agreement was very good at the design operation point, even though the computational grid was not dense enough inthe volute and in the exit cone. The time-accurate calculation over-predicted the amplitude of the pressure variations at high flow.

Kiinteäkerroskaasuttimen toiminnan teoreettinen tarkastelu ja puupellettien kaasutuskokeet myötävirtareaktorilla

Tämä työ on osa tutkimusprojektia, jonka tarkoituksena on kehittää uudentyyppinen kaasutustekniikkaan perustuva kiinteistöjen lämmitysjärjestelmä. Työ on tehty osaksi kirjallisuustutkimuksena käyttämällä hyödyksi alalla tehtyjä tutkimuksia ja kirjallisuutta. Kirjallisuustutkimuksen tavoitteena oli luoda yhtenäinen tietopaketti lämmitysjärjestelmän kehityksen tueksi. Työn kokeellisen osion tavoitteena oli tutkia lämmitysjärjestelmän kaasuttimen prototyypin toimintaa ja selvittää sen käyttöön liittyviä ongelmia. Kirjallisuusosiossa käsitellään kaasutuksen vaiheita: alkulämpeneminen ja kuivuminen, syttyminen, pyrolyysi sekä jäännöshiilen palaminen ja kaasutus. Varsinkin pyrolyysiprosessin tunteminen on merkittävää, kun halutaan parantaa biomassan poltto- ja kaasutusprosessien suunnittelua. Lisäksi kirjallisuusosiossa käsitellään kaasutuksessa syntyvän tuotekaasun ominaisuuksia: koostumus, lämpöarvo, tiheys ja palamisominaisuudet. Tuotekaasun ominaisuudet vaihtelevat suuresti kaasutusprosessista ja -olosuhteista sekä polttoaineesta riippuen. Tuotekaasun kohdalta käsitellään myös sen käyttökohteita. Perinteisesti kaasutuksen tuotekaasua käytetään lämmöntuotantoon, mutta tulevaisuuden haasteena on tuotekaasun käyttö kaasuturbiineissa sähköntuotantoon. Tuotekaasun käyttöä laajemmin rajoittaa sen sisältämät epäpuhtaudet. Tämän vuoksi kirjallisuusosiossa käsitellään myös tuotekaasun puhdistusmenetelmiä ja sen poltossa syntyvien päästöjen vähentämiskeinoja. Kokeellisessa osiossa suoritettiin puupellettien kaasutuskokeita TTKK:n Energia- ja prosessitekniikan laitoksen raskaaseen laboratorioon rakennetulla kaasutusreaktorilla. Kaasutuskokeiden avulla löydettiin kaasutusreaktorin toiminnan ongelmakohdat ja pystyttiin aloittamaan lämmitysjärjestelmän jatkokehitys.

Sähköä ja lämpöä tuottavien maakaasukäyttöisten pienvoimalaitosten kannattavuus Turengissa

Diplomityössä tutkitaan sähkön ja lämmön yhteistuotannon kannattavuutta Turengin nykyisen lämmöntuotannon yhteydessä. Tavoitteena on löytää taloudellisesti kilpailukykyiset tuotantovaihtoehdot Turengin energiahuollon kehittämisessä. Ensimmäisenä tarkasteltarkastellaan voimalaitoksen nykyiseen tuotantolaitteistoon kuuluvan vastapainehöyryturbiinin käyttöönoton mahdollisuuksia. Tämän jälkeen suoritetaan kannattavuuslaskelmat neljälle vaihtoehtoiselle investointitapaukselle. Voimalaitosinvestoinnit kohdistuvat kaasumoottori- ja kaasuturbiinivoimalaitoksiin, joilla tuotetaan sähköä, kaukolämpöä ja eräissä tapauksissa myös prosessihöyryä. Voimalaitosten nettosähkötehot ovat neljästä yhdeksään megawattia. Voimalaitosyksiköiden energiantuotanto määritetään Turengin lämpökuormien perusteella. Tuotannon määrityksessä apuna käytetään WinTEHO –ohjelmistoa, johon luodaan tarvittavat energiatiedostot. Kannattavuuslaskelmat suoritetaan vertaamalla investointivaihtoehtojen aiheuttamia vuotuisia kassavirtoja nykyisen tuotannon mukaisiin kassavirtoihin. Kassavirtalaskelmasta saadaan kullekin vaihtoehdolle nettonykyarvo, sisäinen korko ja takaisinmaksuaika. Tarkastelun tuloksena saatiin, että voimalaitosvaihtoehdoista kannattavin on investointi yhteen kaasumoottoriin, jolla tuotetaan sähkön lisäksi vain kaukolämpöä. Alhaisilla sähkön hinnoilla kaasuturbiinivaihtoehdot ovat suunnilleen yhtä kannattavia. Investointien nykyarvo valitulla korkokannalla on positiivinen, kun sähkön markkinahinnan keskiarvo tuotantokaudella ylittää likimain tason 130 mk/MWh. Nykyisillä markkinahinnoilla investoinnit eivät ole kannattavia. Investoiminen uuteen kaasumoottoriin tai -turbiiniin osoittautui kannattavammaksi kuin sähkön tuotannon aloittaminen laitoksen nykyisellä höyryturbiinilla. Merkittävin syy tähän oli höyryturbiinituotannon korkeat henkilöstökustannukset. Tehty selvitys tukee vallitsevaa käsitystä, että nykytekniikalla sähkön ja lämmön yhteistuotanto on taloudellisesti kilpailukykyistä myös pienessä kokoluokassa.

Kaasuturbiinin polttoainesuuttimien virtausmittaus

Tässä diplomityössä suunniteltiin ja rakennettiin kaasuturbiinin kaasusuuttimien virtausmittauslaitteisto. Suuttimien epätasainen toiminta kasvattaa kaasuturbiinin poistolämpötilahajontaa. Virtausmittauksien perusteella voidaan määrittää suuttimien efektiivinen virtauspoikkipinta-ala. Suuttimien asennusjärjestys opti-moidaan suuttimien välisten pinta-alaerojen mukaisesti, jolloin polttoainevirtaus polttokammioihin on mahdollisimman tasainen ja poistolämpötilahajonta pienenee. Kaasuturbiinin MS6001 esittelyssä keskityttiin tärkeimpiin komponentteihin sekä polttoainesuuttimien testauksen kannalta oleellisiin osiin ja niiden toimintaan. Teoriaosuudessa tarkasteltiin tilavuusvirran sekä suutinvirtauksen laskennassa käytettäviä yhtälöitä. Mittalaitteiston suunnittelu ja toteutus olivat tämän työn laajin osa-alue. Laitteiston keskeiset osat ovat kuristuselin ja suutintestausosa. Kuristuselintyypiksi valittiin rengaskammiollinen kuristuslaippa, joka suun-niteltiin standardin SFS-EN ISO 5167:2003 mukaisesti. Standardissa annettujen yhtälöiden antamia tuloksia verrattiin numeerisella virtauslaskentamallilla lasket-tuihin tuloksiin. Suutinrunkojen ja -kärkien mittauksien suunnittelussa sovellettiin samaa standardia sekä numeerista virtauslaskentaa optimaalisen sijainnin löytämiseksi paineyhteelle. Mittauksissa syntyvien epävarmuuksien arviointiin kiinnitettiin erityistä huomiota. Kokeellisessa osuudessa mitattiin yhden kunnostetun suuttimen, käytetyn suut-timen ja suutinrungon virtausta. Tuloksien perusteella laskettiin efektiiviset pinta-alat, joita verrattiin turbiinivalmistajan ilmoittamiin pinta-aloihin. Lopuksi arvioitiin mittaustulosten perusteella laitteiston toimivuutta. Virhe-arvioinnin ja mittaustulosten perusteella laadittiin teknisiä parannusehdotuksia suutintestauslaitteiston luotettavan toiminnan varmistamiseksi.

A high efficiency microturbine concept

There is a growing trend towards decentralized electricity and heat production throughout the world. Reciprocating engines and gas turbines have an essential role in the global decentralized energy markets and any improvement in their electrical efficiency has a significant impact from the environmental and economic viewpoints. This paper introduces an inter-cooled and recuperated two-shaft microturbine at 500 kW electric output range. The microturbine is optimized for a realistic combination of the turbine inlet temperature, the recuperation rate and the pressure ratio. The new microturbine design aims to achieve significantly increased performance within the range of microturbines and even competing with the efficiencies achieved in large industrial gas turbines. The simulated electrical efficiency is 45%. Improving the efficiency of combined heat and power (CHP) systems will significantly decrease the emissions and operating costs of decentralized heat and electricity production. Cost-effective, compact and environmentally friendly micro-and small-scale CHP turbine systems with high electrical efficiency will have an opportunity to successfully compete against reciprocating engines, which today are used in heat and power generation all over the world and manufactured in large production series. This paper presents a small-scale gas turbine process, capable of competing with reciprocating engine in terms of electrical efficiency.

Computational modelling of non-equilibrium condensing steam flows in low-pressure steam turbines

The steam turbines play a significant role in global power generation. Especially, research on low pressure (LP) steam turbine stages is of special importance for steam turbine man- ufactures, vendors, power plant owners and the scientific community due to their lower efficiency than the high pressure steam turbine stages. Because of condensation, the last stages of LP turbine experience irreversible thermodynamic losses, aerodynamic losses and erosion in turbine blades. Additionally, an LP steam turbine requires maintenance due to moisture generation, and therefore, it is also affecting on the turbine reliability. Therefore, the design of energy efficient LP steam turbines requires a comprehensive analysis of condensation phenomena and corresponding losses occurring in the steam tur- bine either by experiments or with numerical simulations. The aim of the present work is to apply computational fluid dynamics (CFD) to enhance the existing knowledge and understanding of condensing steam flows and loss mechanisms that occur due to the irre- versible heat and mass transfer during the condensation process in an LP steam turbine. Throughout this work, two commercial CFD codes were used to model non-equilibrium condensing steam flows. The Eulerian-Eulerian approach was utilised in which the mix- ture of vapour and liquid phases was solved by Reynolds-averaged Navier-Stokes equa- tions. The nucleation process was modelled with the classical nucleation theory, and two different droplet growth models were used to predict the droplet growth rate. The flow turbulence was solved by employing the standard k-ε and the shear stress transport k-ω turbulence models. Further, both models were modified and implemented in the CFD codes. The thermodynamic properties of vapour and liquid phases were evaluated with real gas models. In this thesis, various topics, namely the influence of real gas properties, turbulence mod- elling, unsteadiness and the blade trailing edge shape on wet-steam flows, are studied with different convergent-divergent nozzles, turbine stator cascade and 3D turbine stator-rotor stage. The simulated results of this study were evaluated and discussed together with the available experimental data in the literature. The grid independence study revealed that an adequate grid size is required to capture correct trends of condensation phenomena in LP turbine flows. The study shows that accurate real gas properties are important for the precise modelling of non-equilibrium condensing steam flows. The turbulence modelling revealed that the flow expansion and subsequently the rate of formation of liquid droplet nuclei and its growth process were affected by the turbulence modelling. The losses were rather sensitive to turbulence modelling as well. Based on the presented results, it could be observed that the correct computational prediction of wet-steam flows in the LP turbine requires the turbulence to be modelled accurately. The trailing edge shape of the LP turbine blades influenced the liquid droplet formulation, distribution and sizes, and loss generation. The study shows that the semicircular trailing edge shape predicted the smallest droplet sizes. The square trailing edge shape estimated greater losses. The analysis of steady and unsteady calculations of wet-steam flow exhibited that in unsteady simulations, the interaction of wakes in the rotor blade row affected the flow field. The flow unsteadiness influenced the nucleation and droplet growth processes due to the fluctuation in the Wilson point.

Implementation of population balances in simulation of gas-liquid reactors using a CFD-PBM coupled approach

In bubbly flow simulations, bubble size distribution is an important factor in determination of hydrodynamics. Beside hydrodynamics, it is crucial in the prediction of interfacial area available for mass transfer and in the prediction of reaction rate in gas-liquid reactors such as bubble columns. Solution of population balance equations is a method which can help to model the size distribution by considering continuous bubble coalescence and breakage. Therefore, in Computational Fluid Dynamic simulations it is necessary to couple CFD and Population Balance Model (CFD-PBM) to get reliable distribution. In the current work a CFD-PBM coupled model is implemented as FORTRAN subroutines in ANSYS CFX 10 and it has been tested for bubbly flow. This model uses the idea of Multi Phase Multi Size Group approach which was previously presented by Sha et al. (2006) [18]. The current CFD-PBM coupled method considers inhomogeneous flow field for different bubble size groups in the Eulerian multi-dispersed phase systems. Considering different velocity field for bubbles can give the advantageof more accurate solution of hydrodynamics. It is also an improved method for prediction of bubble size distribution in multiphase flow compared to available commercial packages.

Reduction of Greenhouse Gas Emissions in North-West Russia - Finnish Business Opportunities

Tutkimus suomalaisten yritysten liiketoimintamahdollisuuksista hiilidoksidipäästöjen vähentämisen parissa Luoteis-Venäjällä.

Computational Analysis and Optimization of Real Gas Flow In Small Centrifugal Compressors

Small centrifugal compressors are more and more widely used in many industrialsystems because of their higher efficiency and better off-design performance comparing to piston and scroll compressors as while as higher work coefficient perstage than in axial compressors. Higher efficiency is always the aim of the designer of compressors. In the present work, the influence of four partsof a small centrifugal compressor that compresses heavy molecular weight real gas has been investigated in order to achieve higher efficiency. Two parts concern the impeller: tip clearance and the circumferential position of the splitter blade. The other two parts concern the diffuser: the pinch shape and vane shape. Computational fluid dynamics is applied in this study. The Reynolds averaged Navier-Stokes flow solver Finflo is used. The quasi-steady approach is utilized. Chien's k-e turbulence model is used to model the turbulence. A new practical real gas model is presented in this study. The real gas model is easily generated, accuracy controllable and fairly fast. The numerical results and measurements show good agreement. The influence of tip clearance on the performance of a small compressor is obvious. The pressure ratio and efficiency are decreased as the size of tip clearance is increased, while the total enthalpy rise keeps almost constant. The decrement of the pressure ratio and efficiency is larger at higher mass flow rates and smaller at lower mass flow rates. The flow angles at the inlet and outlet of the impeller are increased as the size of tip clearance is increased. The results of the detailed flow field show that leakingflow is the main reason for the performance drop. The secondary flow region becomes larger as the size of tip clearance is increased and the area of the main flow is compressed. The flow uniformity is then decreased. A detailed study shows that the leaking flow rate is higher near the exit of the impeller than that near the inlet of the impeller. Based on this phenomenon, a new partiallyshrouded impeller is used. The impeller is shrouded near the exit of the impeller. The results show that the flow field near the exit of the impeller is greatly changed by the partially shrouded impeller, and better performance is achievedthan with the unshrouded impeller. The loading distribution on the impeller blade and the flow fields in the impeller is changed by moving the splitter of the impeller in circumferential direction. Moving the splitter slightly to the suction side of the long blade can improve the performance of the compressor. The total enthalpy rise is reduced if only the leading edge of the splitter ismoved to the suction side of the long blade. The performance of the compressor is decreased if the blade is bended from the radius direction at the leading edge of the splitter. The total pressure rise and the enthalpy rise of thecompressor are increased if pinch is used at the diffuser inlet. Among the fivedifferent pinch shape configurations, at design and lower mass flow rates the efficiency of a straight line pinch is the highest, while at higher mass flow rate, the efficiency of a concave pinch is the highest. The sharp corner of the pinch is the main reason for the decrease of efficiency and should be avoided. The variation of the flow angles entering the diffuser in spanwise direction is decreased if pinch is applied. A three-dimensional low solidity twisted vaned diffuser is designed to match the flow angles entering the diffuser. The numerical results show that the pressure recovery in the twisted diffuser is higher than in a conventional low solidity vaned diffuser, which also leads to higher efficiency of the twisted diffuser. Investigation of the detailed flow fields shows that the separation at lower mass flow rate in the twisted diffuser is later than in the conventional low solidity vaned diffuser, which leads to a possible wider flow range of the twisted diffuser.

Numerical and ExperimentalModelling of Gas Flow and Heat Transfer in the Air Gap of An Electric Machine

This work deals with the cooling of high-speed electric machines, such as motors and generators, through an air gap. It consists of numerical and experimental modelling of gas flow and heat transfer in an annular channel. Velocity and temperature profiles are modelled in the air gap of a high-speed testmachine. Local and mean heat transfer coefficients and total friction coefficients are attained for a smooth rotor-stator combination at a large velocity range. The aim is to solve the heat transfer numerically and experimentally. The FINFLO software, developed at Helsinki University of Technology, has been used in the flow solution, and the commercial IGG and Field view programs for the grid generation and post processing. The annular channel is discretized as a sector mesh. Calculation is performed with constant mass flow rate on six rotational speeds. The effect of turbulence is calculated using three turbulence models. The friction coefficient and velocity factor are attained via total friction power. The first part of experimental section consists of finding the proper sensors and calibrating them in a straight pipe. After preliminary tests, a RdF-sensor is glued on the walls of stator and rotor surfaces. Telemetry is needed to be able to measure the heat transfer coefficients at the rotor. The mean heat transfer coefficients are measured in a test machine on four cooling air mass flow rates at a wide Couette Reynolds number range. The calculated values concerning the friction and heat transfer coefficients are compared with measured and semi-empirical data. Heat is transferred from the hotter stator and rotor surfaces to the coolerair flow in the air gap, not from the rotor to the stator via the air gap, althought the stator temperature is lower than the rotor temperature. The calculatedfriction coefficients fits well with the semi-empirical equations and precedingmeasurements. On constant mass flow rate the rotor heat transfer coefficient attains a saturation point at a higher rotational speed, while the heat transfer coefficient of the stator grows uniformly. The magnitudes of the heat transfer coefficients are almost constant with different turbulence models. The calibrationof sensors in a straight pipe is only an advisory step in the selection process. Telemetry is tested in the pipe conditions and compared to the same measurements with a plain sensor. The magnitudes of the measured data and the data from the semi-empirical equation are higher for the heat transfer coefficients than thenumerical data considered on the velocity range. Friction and heat transfer coefficients are presented in a large velocity range in the report. The goals are reached acceptably using numerical and experimental research. The next challenge is to achieve results for grooved stator-rotor combinations. The work contains also results for an air gap with a grooved stator with 36 slots. The velocity field by the numerical method does not match in every respect the estimated flow mode. The absence of secondary Taylor vortices is evident when using time averagednumerical simulation.

Modeling dynamic behavior in tilting pad gas journal bearings

Thisresearch deals with the dynamic modeling of gas lubricated tilting pad journal bearings provided with spring supported pads, including experimental verification of the computation. On the basis of a mathematical model of a film bearing, a computer program has been developed, which can be used for the simulation of a special type of tilting pad gas journal bearing supported by a rotary spring under different loading conditions time dependently (transient running conditions due to geometry variations in time externally imposed). On the basis of literature, different transformations have been used in the model to achieve simpler calculation. The numerical simulation is used to solve a non-stationary case of a gasfilm. The simulation results were compared with literature results in a stationary case (steady running conditions) and they were found to be equal. In addition to this, comparisons were made with a number of stationary and non-stationary bearing tests, which were performed at Lappeenranta University of Technology using bearings designed with the simulation program. A study was also made using numerical simulation and literature to establish the influence of the different bearing parameters on the stability of the bearing. Comparison work was done with literature on tilting pad gas bearings. This bearing type is rarely used. One literature reference has studied the same bearing type as that used in LUT. A new design of tilting pad gas bearing is introduced. It is based on a stainless steel body and electron beam welding of the bearing parts. It has good operation characteristics and is easier to tune and faster to manufacture than traditional constructions. It is also suitable for large serial production.

Gas-liquid mass transfer in bubbly flow: Estimation of mass transfer, bubble size and reactor performance in various applications

Gas-liquid mass transfer is an important issue in the design and operation of many chemical unit operations. Despite its importance, the evaluation of gas-liquid mass transfer is not straightforward due to the complex nature of the phenomena involved. In this thesis gas-liquid mass transfer was evaluated in three different gas-liquid reactors in a traditional way by measuring the volumetric mass transfer coefficient (kLa). The studied reactors were a bubble column with a T-junction two-phase nozzle for gas dispersion, an industrial scale bubble column reactor for the oxidation of tetrahydroanthrahydroquinone and a concurrent downflow structured bed.The main drawback of this approach is that the obtained correlations give only the average volumetric mass transfer coefficient, which is dependent on average conditions. Moreover, the obtained correlations are valid only for the studied geometry and for the chemical system used in the measurements. In principle, a more fundamental approach is to estimate the interfacial area available for mass transfer from bubble size distributions obtained by solution of population balance equations. This approach has been used in this thesis by developing a population balance model for a bubble column together with phenomenological models for bubble breakage and coalescence. The parameters of the bubble breakage rate and coalescence rate models were estimated by comparing the measured and calculated bubble sizes. The coalescence models always have at least one experimental parameter. This is because the bubble coalescence depends on liquid composition in a way which is difficult to evaluate using known physical properties. The coalescence properties of some model solutions were evaluated by measuring the time that a bubble rests at the free liquid-gas interface before coalescing (the so-calledpersistence time or rest time). The measured persistence times range from 10 msup to 15 s depending on the solution. The coalescence was never found to be instantaneous. The bubble oscillates up and down at the interface at least a coupleof times before coalescence takes place. The measured persistence times were compared to coalescence times obtained by parameter fitting using measured bubble size distributions in a bubble column and a bubble column population balance model. For short persistence times, the persistence and coalescence times are in good agreement. For longer persistence times, however, the persistence times are at least an order of magnitude longer than the corresponding coalescence times from parameter fitting. This discrepancy may be attributed to the uncertainties concerning the estimation of energy dissipation rates, collision rates and mechanisms and contact times of the bubbles.