Dynamic impacts of the inhibition of the molecular chaperone hsp90 on the T-cell proteome have implications for anti-cancer therapy.

The molecular chaperone Hsp90-dependent proteome represents a complex protein network of critical biological and medical relevance. Known to associate with proteins with a broad variety of functions termed clients, Hsp90 maintains key essential and oncogenic signalling pathways. Consequently, Hsp90 inhibitors are being tested as anti-cancer drugs. Using an integrated systematic approach to analyse the effects of Hsp90 inhibition in T-cells, we quantified differential changes in the Hsp90-dependent proteome, Hsp90 interactome, and a selection of the transcriptome. Kinetic behaviours in the Hsp90-dependent proteome were assessed using a novel pulse-chase strategy (Fierro-Monti et al., accompanying article), detecting effects on both protein stability and synthesis. Global and specific dynamic impacts, including proteostatic responses, are due to direct inhibition of Hsp90 as well as indirect effects. As a result, a decrease was detected in most proteins that changed their levels, including known Hsp90 clients. Most likely, consequences of the role of Hsp90 in gene expression determined a global reduction in net de novo protein synthesis. This decrease appeared to be greater in magnitude than a concomitantly observed global increase in protein decay rates. Several novel putative Hsp90 clients were validated, and interestingly, protein families with critical functions, particularly the Hsp90 family and cofactors themselves as well as protein kinases, displayed strongly increased decay rates due to Hsp90 inhibitor treatment. Remarkably, an upsurge in survival pathways, involving molecular chaperones and several oncoproteins, and decreased levels of some tumour suppressors, have implications for anti-cancer therapy with Hsp90 inhibitors. The diversity of global effects may represent a paradigm of mechanisms that are operating to shield cells from proteotoxic stress, by promoting pro-survival and anti-proliferative functions. Data are available via ProteomeXchange with identifier PXD000537.

Auditory cues support place navigation in rats when associated with a visual cue.

Rats, like other crepuscular animals, have excellent auditory capacities and they discriminate well between different sounds [Heffner HE, Heffner RS, Hearing in two cricetid rodents: wood rats (Neotoma floridana) and grasshopper mouse (Onychomys leucogaster). J Comp Psychol 1985;99(3):275-88]. However, most experimental literature concerning spatial orientation almost exclusively emphasizes the use of visual landmarks [Cressant A, Muller RU, Poucet B. Failure of centrally placed objects to control the firing fields of hippocampal place cells. J Neurosci 1997;17(7):2531-42; and Goodridge JP, Taube JS. Preferential use of the landmark navigational system by head direction cells in rats. Behav Neurosci 1995;109(1):49-61]. To address the important issue of whether rats are able to achieve a place navigation task relative to auditory beacons, we designed a place learning task in the water maze. We controlled cue availability by conducting the experiment in total darkness. Three auditory cues did not allow place navigation whereas three visual cues in the same positions did support place navigation. One auditory beacon directly associated with the goal location did not support taxon navigation (a beacon strategy allowing the animal to find the goal just by swimming toward the cue). Replacing the auditory beacons by one single visual beacon did support taxon navigation. A multimodal configuration of two auditory cues and one visual cue allowed correct place navigation. The deletion of the two auditory or of the one visual cue did disrupt the spatial performance. Thus rats can combine information from different sensory modalities to achieve a place navigation task. In particular, auditory cues support place navigation when associated with a visual one.

Use of a dynamic foot pressure index to monitor the effects of treatment for equinus gait in children with cerebral palsy.

The purpose of this study is to introduce and describe a newly developed index using foot pressure analysis to quantify the degree of equinus gait in children with cerebral palsy before and after injection with botulinum toxin. Data were captured preinjection and 12 weeks postinjection. Ten children aged 2(1/2) to 6(1/2) years took part (5 boys and 5 girls). Three of them had a diagnosis of spastic diplegia and 7 of congenital hemiplegia. In total, 13 limbs were analyzed. After orientation and segmentation of raw pedobarographic data, we determined a dynamic foot pressure index graded 0 to 100 that quantified the relative degree of heel and forefoot contact during stance. These data were correlated (Pearson correlation) with clinical measurements of dorsiflexion at the ankle (on a slow and fast stretch) and video observation (using the Observational Gait Scale). Pedobarograph data were strongly correlated with both the Observational Gait Scale scores (R = 0.79, P < 0.005) and clinical measurements of dorsiflexion on a fast stretch, which is reflective of spasticity (R = 0.70, P < 0.005). We demonstrated the index's sensitivity in detecting changes in spasticity and good correlation with video observations seems to indicate this technique's potential validity. When manipulated and segmented appropriately, and with the development of a simple ordinal index, we found that foot pressure data provided a useful tool in tracking changes in patients with spastic equinus.

Roles of transient guidepost neurons in corpus callosum formation and guidance

RESUMENeurones transitoires jouant un rôle de cibles intermédiaires dans le guidage des axones du corps calleuxLe guidage axonal est une étape clé permettant aux neurones d'établir des connexions synaptiques et de s'intégrer dans un réseau neural fonctionnel de manière spécifique. Des cellules-cibles intermédiaires appelées « guidepost » aident les axones à parcourir de longues distances dans le cerveau en leur fournissant des informations directionnelles tout au long de leur trajet. Il a été démontré que des sous-populations de cellules gliales au niveau de la ligne médiane guident les axones du corps calleux (CC) d'un hémisphère vers l'autre. Bien qu'il fût observé que le CC en développement contenait aussi des neurones, leur rôle était resté jusqu'alors inconnu.La publication de nos résultats a montré que pendant le développement embryonnaire, le CC contient des glies mais aussi un nombre considérable de neurones glutamatergiques et GABAergiques, nécessaires à la formation du corps calleux (Niquille et al., PLoS Biology, 2009). Dans ce travail, j'ai utilisé des techniques de morphologie et d'imagerie confocale 3D pour définir le cadre neuro-anatomique de notre modèle. De plus, à l'aide de transplantations sur tranches in vitro, de co-explants, d'expression de siRNA dans des cultures de neurones primaires et d'analyse in vivo sur des souris knock-out, nous avons démontré que les neurones du CC guident les axones callosaux en partie grâce à l'action attractive du facteur de guidage Sema3C sur son récepteur Npn- 1.Récemment, nous avons étudié l'origine, les aspects dynamiques de ces processus, ainsi que les mécanismes moléculaires impliqués dans la mise en place de ce faisceau axonal (Niquille et al., soumis). Tout d'abord, nous avons précisé l'origine et l'identité des neurones guidepost GABAergiques du CC par une étude approfondie de traçage génétique in vivo. J'ai identifié, dans le CC, deux populations distinctes de neurones GABAergiques venant des éminences ganglionnaires médiane (MGE) et caudale (CGE). J'ai ensuite étudié plus en détail les interactions dynamiques entre neurones et axones du corps calleux par microscopie confocale en temps réel. Puis nous avons défini le rôle de chaque sous-population neuronale dans le guidage des axones callosaux et de manière intéressante les neurones GABAergic dérivés de la MGE comme ceux de la CGE se sont révélés avoir une action attractive pour les axones callosaux dans des expériences de transplantation. Enfin, nous avons clarifié la base moléculaire de ces mécanismes de guidage par FACS sorting associé à un large criblage génétique de molécules d'intérêt par une technique très sensible de RT-PCR et ensuite ces résultats ont été validés par hybridation in situ.Nous avons également étudié si les neurones guidepost du CC étaient impliqués dans son agénésie (absence de CC), présente dans nombreux syndromes congénitaux chez 1 humain. Le gène homéotique Aristaless (Arx) contrôle la migration des neurones GABAergiques et sa mutation conduit à de nombreuses pathologies humaines, notamment la lissencéphalie liée à IX avec organes génitaux anormaux (XLAG) et agénésie du CC. Fait intéressant, nous avons constaté qu'ARX est exprimé dans toutes les populations GABAergiques guidepost du CC et que les embryons mutant pour Arx présentent une perte drastique de ces neurones accompagnée de défauts de navigation des axones (Niquille et al., en préparation). En outre, nous avons découvert que les souris déficientes pour le facteur de transcription ciliogenic RFX3 souffrent d'une agénésie du CC associé avec des défauts de mise en place de la ligne médiane et une désorganisation secondaire des neurones glutamatergiques guidepost (Benadiba et al., submitted). Ceci suggère fortement l'implication potentielle des deux types de neurones guidepost dans l'agénésie du CC chez l'humain.Ainsi, mon travail de thèse révèle de nouvelles fonctions pour ces neurones transitoires dans le guidage axonal et apporte de nouvelles perspectives sur les rôles respectifs des cellules neuronales et gliales dans ce processus.ABSTRACTRole of transient guidepost neurons in corpus callosum development and guidanceAxonal guidance is a key step that allows neurons to build specific synaptic connections and to specifically integrate in a functional neural network. Intermediate targets or guidepost cells act as critical elements that help to guide axons through long distance in the brain and provide information all along their travel. Subpopulations of midline glial cells have been shown to guide corpus callosum (CC) axons to the contralateral cerebral hemisphere. While neuronal cells are also present in the developing corpus callosum, their role still remains elusive.Our published results unravelled that, during embryonic development, the CC is populated in addition to astroglia by numerous glutamatergic and GABAergic guidepost neurons that are essential for the correct midline crossing of callosal axons (Niquille et al., PLoS Biology, 2009). In this work, I have combined morphological and 3D confocal imaging techniques to define the neuro- anatomical frame of our system. Moreover, with the use of in vitro transplantations in slices, co- explant experiments, siRNA manipulations on primary neuronal culture and in vivo analysis of knock-out mice we have been able to demonstrate that CC neurons direct callosal axon outgrowth, in part through the attractive action of Sema3C on its Npn-1 receptor.Recently, we have studied the origin, the dynamic aspects of these processes as well as the molecular mechanisms involved in the establishment of this axonal tract (Niquille et al., submitted). First, we have clarified the origin and the identity of the CC GABAergic guidepost neurons using extensive in vivo cell fate-mapping experiments. We identified two distinct GABAergic neuronal subpopulations, originating from the medial (MGE) and caudal (CGE) ganglionic eminences. I then studied in more details the dynamic interactions between CC neurons and callosal axons by confocal time-lapse video microscopy and I have also further characterized the role of each guidepost neuronal subpopulation in callosal guidance. Interestingly, MGE- and CGE-derived GABAergic neurons are both attractive for callosal axons in transplantation experiments. Finally, we have dissected the molecular basis of these guidance mechanisms by using FACS sorting combined with an extensive genetic screen for molecules of interest by a sensitive RT-PCR technique, as well as, in situ hybridization.I have also investigated whether CC guidepost neurons are involved in agenesis of the CC which occurs in numerous human congenital syndromes. Aristaless-related homeobox gene (Arx) regulates GABAergic neuron migration and its mutation leads to numerous human pathologies including X-linked lissencephaly with abnormal genitalia (XLAG) and severe CC agenesis. Interestingly, I found that ARX is expressed in all the guidepost GABAergic neuronal populations of the CC and that Arx-/- embryos exhibit a drastic loss of CC GABAergic interneurons accompanied by callosal axon navigation defects (Niquille et al, in preparation). In addition, we discovered that mice deficient for the ciliogenic transcription factor RFX3 suffer from CC agenesis associated with early midline patterning defects and a secondary disorganisation of guidepost glutamatergic neurons (Benadiba et al., submitted). This strongly points out the potential implication of both types of guidepost neurons in human CC agenesis.Taken together, my thesis work reveals novel functions for transient neurons in axonal guidance and brings new perspectives on the respective roles of neuronal and glial cells in these processes.

A dynamic model of keratinocyte stem cell renewal and differentiation: role of the p21WAF1/Cip1 and Notch1 signaling pathways.

We present here a dynamic model of functional equilibrium between keratinocyte stem cells, transit amplifying populations and cells that are reversibly versus irreversibly committed to differentiation. According to this model, the size of keratinocyte stem cell populations can be controlled at multiple levels, including relative late steps in the sequence of events leading to terminal differentiation and by the influences of a heterogeneous extra-cellular environment. We discuss how work in our laboratory, on the interconnection between the cyclin/CDK inhibitor p21WAF1/Cip1 and the Notch1 signaling pathways, provides strong support to this dynamic model of stem cell versus committed and/or differentiated keratinocyte populations.

Proton NMR of (15)N-choline metabolites enhanced by dynamic nuclear polarization.

Chemical shifts of protons can report on metabolic transformations such as the conversion of choline to phosphocholine. To follow such processes in vivo, magnetization can be enhanced by dynamic nuclear polarization (DNP). We have hyperpolarized in this manner nitrogen-15 spins in (15)N-labeled choline up to 3.3% by irradiating the 94 GHz electron spin resonance of admixed TEMPO nitroxide radicals in a magnetic field of 3.35 T during ca. 3 h at 1.2 K. The sample was subsequently transferred to a high-resolution magnet, and the enhanced polarization was converted from (15)N to methyl- and methylene protons, using the small (2,3)J((1)H,(15)N) couplings in choline. The room-temperature lifetime of nitrogen polarization in choline, T(1)((15)N) approximately 200 s, could be considerably increased by partial deuteration of the molecule. This procedure enables studies of choline metabolites in vitro and in vivo using DNP-enhanced proton NMR.

A new conservative-dynamic treatment for the acute ruptured Achilles tendon.

INTRODUCTION: There is a trend towards surgical treatment of acute ruptured Achilles tendon. While classical open surgical procedures have been shown to restore good functional capacity, they are potentially associated with significant complications like wound infection and paresthesia. Modern mini-invasive surgical techniques significantly reduce these complications and are also associated with good functional results so that they can be considered as the surgical treatment of choice. Nevertheless, there is still a need for conservative alternative and recent studies report good results with conservative treatment in rigid casts or braces. PATIENTS/METHOD: We report the use of a dynamic ankle brace in the conservative treatment of Achilles tendon rupture in a prospective non-randomised study of 57 consecutive patients. Patients were evaluated at an average follow-up time of 5 years using the modified Leppilahti Ankle Score, and the first 30 patients additionally underwent a clinical examination and muscular testing with a Cybex isokinetic dynamometer at 6 and 12 months. RESULTS: We found good and excellent results in most cases. We observed five complete re-ruptures, almost exclusively in case of poor patient's compliance, two partial re-ruptures and one deep venous thrombosis complicated by pulmonary embolism. CONCLUSION: Although prospective comparison with other modern treatment options is still required, the functional outcome after early ankle mobilisation in a dynamic cast is good enough to ethically propose this method as an alternative to surgical treatment.

Dynamic models of energy allocation and investment

In dynamic models of energy allocation, assimilated energy is allocated to reproduction, somatic growth, maintenance or storage, and the allocation pattern can change with age. The expected evolutionary outcome is an optimal allocation pattern, but this depends on the environment experienced during the evolutionary process and on the fitness costs and benefits incurred by allocating resources in different ways. Here we review existing treatments which encompass some of the possibilities as regards constant or variable environments and their predictability or unpredictability, and the ways in which production rates and mortality rates depend on body size and composition and age and on the pattern of energy allocation. The optimal policy is to allocate resources where selection pressures are highest, and simultaneous allocation to several body subsystems and reproduction can be optimal if these pressures are equal. This may explain balanced growth commonly observed during ontogeny. Growth ceases at maturity in many models; factors favouring growth after maturity include non-linear trade-offs, variable season length, and production and mortality rates both increasing (or decreasing) functions of body size. We cannot yet say whether these are sufficient to account for the many known cases of growth after maturity and not all reasonable models have yet been explored. Factors favouring storage are also reviewed.

quantiNemo: an individual-based program to simulate quantitative traits with explicit genetic architecture in a dynamic metapopulation.

quantiNemo is an individual-based, genetically explicit stochastic simulation program. It was developed to investigate the effects of selection, mutation, recombination and drift on quantitative traits with varying architectures in structured populations connected by migration and located in a heterogeneous habitat. quantiNemo is highly flexible at various levels: population, selection, trait(s) architecture, genetic map for QTL and/or markers, environment, demography, mating system, etc. quantiNemo is coded in C++ using an object-oriented approach and runs on any computer platform. Availability: Executables for several platforms, user's manual, and source code are freely available under the GNU General Public License at http://www2.unil.ch/popgen/softwares/quantinemo.

Assimilation des expériences problématiques: une étude de cas de psychothérapie psychodynamique limitée dans le temps [Assimilation of problematic experiences: a case study on short-term dynamic psychotherapy].

The assimilation model is a qualitative and integrative approach that enables to study change processes that occur in psychotherapy. According to Stiles, this model conceives the individual's personality as constituent of different voices; the concept of voice is used to describe traces left by past experiences. During the psychotherapy, we can observe the progressive integration of the problematic voices into the patient's personality. We applied the assimilation model to a 34-session-long case of an effective short-term dynamic psychotherapy. We've chosen eight sessions we transcribed and analyzed by establishing points of contact between the case and the theory. The results are presented and discussed in terms of the evolution of the main voices in the patient.

Working memory in schizophrenia: dynamic visuo-spatial information processing

Working memory, commonly defined as the ability to hold mental representations on line transiently and to manipulate these representations, is known to be a core deficit in schizophrenia. The aim of the present study was to investigate the visuo-spatial component of the working memory in schizophrenia, and more precisely to what extent the dynamic visuo-spatial information processing is impaired in schizophrenia patients. For this purpose we used a computerized paradigm in which 29 patients with schizophrenia (DSMIV, Diagnostic Interview for Genetic Studies) and 29 age and sex matched control subjects (DIGS) had to memorize a plane moving across the computer screen and to identify the observed trajectory among 9 plots proposed together. Each trajectory could be seen max. 3 times if needed. The results showed no difference between schizophrenia patients and controls regarding the number of correct trajectory identified after the first presentation. However, when we determine the mean number of correct trajectories on the basis of 3 trials, we observed that schizophrenia patients are significantly less performant than controls (Mann-Whitney, p _ 0.002). These findings suggest that, although schizophrenia patients are able to memorize some dynamic trajectories as well as controls, they do not profit from the repetition of the trajectory presentation. These findings are congruent with the hypothesis that schizophrenia could induce an unbalance between local and global information processing: the patients may be able to focus on details of the trajectory which could allow them to find the right target (bottom-up processes), but may show difficulty to refer to previous experience in order to filter incoming information (top-down processes) and enhance their visuo-spatial working memory abilities.

Characterization of the neuronal microtubule regulator SCG10 in transfected cells and " in vivo "

SUMMARY The ability of neuronal processes to find their way along complex paths and to establish appropriate connections depends on continual rearrangements of the cytoskeletal components. The regulation of microtubules plays an important role for morphological changes underlying nevrite outgrowth, axonal elongation, and growth cone steering. SCG10 (superior cervical ganglion clone 10) is a neuronal growthassociated protein developmentally regulated and highly enriched in the neuronal growth cones. SCG10 presents a microtubule destabilizing activity that could participate to the regulation of microtubule dynamics and thus explain microtubule behaviors in the growth cone during axonal elongation and turning. It is here suggested that a tight control of the opposite effects on microtubules of SCG10 and the stabilizing microtubule-associated protein MAP1B allows a fine tuning of cytoskeletal rearrangement and may provide the required microtubule dynamic instability to promote axonal growth. Moreover, antibodyblockade of SCG10 function, that leads to growth cone pauses similar as those triggered by the guidance molecule EphB, and the modulation of SCG10 activity by the Rho GTPase Rnd1 suggest a potential role for SCG10 in the signal transduction pathways of extracellular guidance cues. The identification of the active zone protein Bassoon as a potential interaction partner for the SCG10-related protein NPC2, using atomic force microscopy as well as COS-7 and neuronal cell cultures, also gives new insights for a role of this protein family into the processes of synapse genesis or plasticity. Finally, SCG10 mutant mice generated by gene targeting and expressing a soluble form of the protein have been characterized during early postnatal development and in the adulthood. Due to the deletion of its membrane binding domain, SCG10 specific subcellular targeting to growth cones is compromised and results in impairments of motor and coordination development. Further histological analysis in the sciatic nerve reveal that these symptoms are associated with neurodegenerative signs. RESUME Une navigation correcte des prolongements cellulaires neuronaux leur permettant de former des connections appropriées repose sur de continuels réarrangements des constituants de leur cytosquelette. La régulation des microtubules joue notamment un rôle important dans les changements morphologiques qui accompagnent la croissance axonale et les réorientations du cône de croissance. SCG10 (superior cervical ganglion clone 10) est une protéine étroitement associée à la croissance neuronale, hautement régulée durant le développement et abondante au niveau du cône de croissance. SCG10 présente une activité déstabilisatrice sur les microtubules qui pourrait permettre une régulation des paramètres dynamiques propres aux microtubules et ainsi expliquer leur comportement durant la navigation du cône de croissance. Il est ici proposé qu'un contrôle précis des effets opposés de SCG10 et d'une autre protéine stabilisante associée aux microtubules (MAP1 B) permette un réglage fin des réarrangements du cytosquelette et puisse ainsi produire l'instabilité dynamique nécessaire à la croissance anale. Par ailleurs, le blocage de la fonction de SCG10 par un anticorps spécifique, conduisant à des pauses du cônes de croissance similaires à celles provoquées par la molécule de guidage EphB, ainsi que la modulation de l'activité de SCG10 par la Rho GTPase Rnd1 suggèrent une potentielle implication de SCG10 dans les voies de transduction des signaux provenant de molécules de guidage extracellulaires. L'identification d'une interaction de la protéine synaptique Bassoon avec la protéine NPC2 apparentée à SCG10, au moyen de la microscopie à force atomique et dans des cultures de cellules neuronales et COS-7, ouvre des perspectives concernant ces protéines dans la formation et la plasticité synaptiques. Finalement, des souris mutantes pour SCG10 produites par ciblage de gène et exprimant une forme soluble de la protéine ont été caractérisées durant la phase précoce du développement et à l'âge adulte. La délétion du domaine permettant l'ancrage de SCG10 aux membranes compromet sa sub-localisation au niveau du cône de croissance et résulte en l'apparition de troubles moteurs et de la coordination. Des analyses histologiques complémentaires au niveau du nerf sciatique montrent que ces symptômes sont associés avec des signes neurodégénératifs.

Dynamic Modelling of Material Flows and Sustainable Resource Use: Case Studies in Regional Metabolism and Space Life Support Systems

Sustainable resource use is one of the most important environmental issues of our times. It is closely related to discussions on the 'peaking' of various natural resources serving as energy sources, agricultural nutrients, or metals indispensable in high-technology applications. Although the peaking theory remains controversial, it is commonly recognized that a more sustainable use of resources would alleviate negative environmental impacts related to resource use. In this thesis, sustainable resource use is analysed from a practical standpoint, through several different case studies. Four of these case studies relate to resource metabolism in the Canton of Geneva in Switzerland: the aim was to model the evolution of chosen resource stocks and flows in the coming decades. The studied resources were copper (a bulk metal), phosphorus (a vital agricultural nutrient), and wood (a renewable resource). In addition, the case of lithium (a critical metal) was analysed briefly in a qualitative manner and in an electric mobility perspective. In addition to the Geneva case studies, this thesis includes a case study on the sustainability of space life support systems. Space life support systems are systems whose aim is to provide the crew of a spacecraft with the necessary metabolic consumables over the course of a mission. Sustainability was again analysed from a resource use perspective. In this case study, the functioning of two different types of life support systems, ARES and BIORAT, were evaluated and compared; these systems represent, respectively, physico-chemical and biological life support systems. Space life support systems could in fact be used as a kind of 'laboratory of sustainability' given that they represent closed and relatively simple systems compared to complex and open terrestrial systems such as the Canton of Geneva. The chosen analysis method used in the Geneva case studies was dynamic material flow analysis: dynamic material flow models were constructed for the resources copper, phosphorus, and wood. Besides a baseline scenario, various alternative scenarios (notably involving increased recycling) were also examined. In the case of space life support systems, the methodology of material flow analysis was also employed, but as the data available on the dynamic behaviour of the systems was insufficient, only static simulations could be performed. The results of the case studies in the Canton of Geneva show the following: were resource use to follow population growth, resource consumption would be multiplied by nearly 1.2 by 2030 and by 1.5 by 2080. A complete transition to electric mobility would be expected to only slightly (+5%) increase the copper consumption per capita while the lithium demand in cars would increase 350 fold. For example, phosphorus imports could be decreased by recycling sewage sludge or human urine; however, the health and environmental impacts of these options have yet to be studied. Increasing the wood production in the Canton would not significantly decrease the dependence on wood imports as the Canton's production represents only 5% of total consumption. In the comparison of space life support systems ARES and BIORAT, BIORAT outperforms ARES in resource use but not in energy use. However, as the systems are dimensioned very differently, it remains questionable whether they can be compared outright. In conclusion, the use of dynamic material flow analysis can provide useful information for policy makers and strategic decision-making; however, uncertainty in reference data greatly influences the precision of the results. Space life support systems constitute an extreme case of resource-using systems; nevertheless, it is not clear how their example could be of immediate use to terrestrial systems.